week numbers need to be sorted out (plural, ordinals, etc.)

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Split-off from bug: bug:9778

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<dateFormatItem id="MMMMW" count="one">'vecka' W 'i' MMM</dateFormatItem>

Does not make much sense, too fuzzy, no formal definition of "week in month" cutoff day.
Furthermore: NEVER used in Scandinavia (at least).

<dateFormatItem id="MMMMW" count="other">'vecka' W 'i' MMM</dateFormatItem>

Does not make sense for any language; always singular week! (Showstopper...)

<dateFormatItem id="yw" count="one">'vecka' w, y</dateFormatItem>

While this one does make sense (for those of us that actually adhere to the ISO standard, like in Scandinavia), basically only administrators use it. "Ordinary people" just get confused and have to look up when it is, which is
a constant problem). For those not really using the ISO standard, this one does not make sense, even for administrators.

<dateFormatItem id="yw" count="other">'vecka' w, y</dateFormatItem>

Does not make sense for any language; always singular week! (Showstopper...)

Also see #comment:5

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May 9, 2019, 10:50 PM
Trac Comment 5 by —2017-03-08T16:18:02.575Z

Need to make sure ST gives good guidance, since often both forms won't be used.

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May 9, 2019, 10:50 PM
Trac Comment 6 by Christian Schmidt <c960657-unicode.org@8fe98f4446f295f3—2017-04-07T16:35:57.043Z

''While this one does make sense (for those of us that actually adhere to the ISO standard, like in Scandinavia), basically only administrators use it. "Ordinary people" just get confused and have to look up when it is, which is a constant problem)''

This does not hold true for Denmark. I don't know about other Scandinavian countries (Norway and Sweden), but in Denmark week numbers are widely used among ordinary people, even though most people have to look them up in order to translate them to the corresponding day+month.

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May 9, 2019, 10:50 PM
Trac Comment 7 by Christian Schmidt <c960657-unicode.org@8fe98f4446f295f3—2017-04-07T16:36:36.909Z

About week number usage in Denmark:

Week numbers are often used when planning something that lasts an entire week or workweek or will happen at an unspecified time during a week. Examples: “I will be on vacation in week 42”, “The school will be closed in week 15 for the Easter holidays” or “We expect to finish the project in week 2, 2018”.

Week numbers are usually used to refer to events in the current year ± 1, not many years in the past/future.

Relevant format skeletons are 'Yw' (week 12), 'w' (week 12, 2017), 'YwE' (Monday of week 10, 2017) and 'wE' (Monday of week 10). The latter correspond to the year-week-weekday format specified in ISO 8601 (2017-W10-1). Note that years used in connection with ISO 8601 week numbers should use the Y symbol, not y.

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May 9, 2019, 10:50 PM
Trac Comment 10 by —2018-02-13T15:45:29.988Z

Still in design, so pushing

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May 9, 2019, 10:50 PM
Trac Comment 12 by —2018-11-09T09:18:44.284Z

Moving to 36, since we aren't doing a full submission this time.

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Mark Davis

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Fredrik Stenshamn

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